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		<title>By: Angela</title>
		<link>http://dragonchasers.com/2009/11/09/response-to-the-mbacd/#comment-127109</link>
		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all due respect, politeness, and all that jazz... ;)

This is Peter&#039;s blog. He has every right to post whatever he likes, in whatever tone he deems appropriate. He obviously felt strongly enough about the issue to write about it publicly, but he made it clear from the very start that the entire post was his opinion and that other people&#039;s mileage may vary.

We all have topics that just rub us the wrong way, no matter how they&#039;re presented, and we all have different reasons or experiences behind those feelings. It takes a varying amount of time before we&#039;re able to process those emotions and reflexive reactions in order to come up with more constructive alternatives. ...And this goes for both sides of the issue here.

I think Peter&#039;s post was a knee-jerk reaction -- which is part of being human. I also feel as though many of the initial responses were knee-jerk in return. Again, understandable. I think the fact that reasonably intelligent discussion was borne of such impulsive banter sends a much clearer -- and all-around better -- message.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all due respect, politeness, and all that jazz&#8230; <img src='http://dragonchasers.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>This is Peter&#8217;s blog. He has every right to post whatever he likes, in whatever tone he deems appropriate. He obviously felt strongly enough about the issue to write about it publicly, but he made it clear from the very start that the entire post was his opinion and that other people&#8217;s mileage may vary.</p>
<p>We all have topics that just rub us the wrong way, no matter how they&#8217;re presented, and we all have different reasons or experiences behind those feelings. It takes a varying amount of time before we&#8217;re able to process those emotions and reflexive reactions in order to come up with more constructive alternatives. &#8230;And this goes for both sides of the issue here.</p>
<p>I think Peter&#8217;s post was a knee-jerk reaction &#8212; which is part of being human. I also feel as though many of the initial responses were knee-jerk in return. Again, understandable. I think the fact that reasonably intelligent discussion was borne of such impulsive banter sends a much clearer &#8212; and all-around better &#8212; message.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian 'Psychochild' Green</title>
		<link>http://dragonchasers.com/2009/11/09/response-to-the-mbacd/#comment-127107</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian 'Psychochild' Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was going to leave this alone, but Pete asked:

&lt;i&gt;If Iâ€™m so off the rails, why are you so worried about what I think, Brian?&lt;/i&gt;

Because of the negativity.  The posts were spammy.  We&#039;re begging for money.  We&#039;re harassing people who are already harassed enough.  You didn&#039;t offer any constructive criticism until 27 comments in.  

If you were upset about us being spammy, a short email to one of us (like Ferrel) would have been the polite thing to do.  &quot;Hey, all those posts seem a bit spammy to me.  Perhaps in the future you could spread them out a bit.&quot;  That person could have spread it around to the rest of us.  Actually, I think you&#039;re right and that&#039;s a better way to go about it.  But, a simple email could have addressed the problem without a, &quot;I suggest that people are getting so sick of being â€˜urged to donateâ€™ that theyâ€™ll stop donating out of spite,&quot; negative rant post on your site and the comments that followed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to leave this alone, but Pete asked:</p>
<p><i>If Iâ€™m so off the rails, why are you so worried about what I think, Brian?</i></p>
<p>Because of the negativity.  The posts were spammy.  We&#8217;re begging for money.  We&#8217;re harassing people who are already harassed enough.  You didn&#8217;t offer any constructive criticism until 27 comments in.  </p>
<p>If you were upset about us being spammy, a short email to one of us (like Ferrel) would have been the polite thing to do.  &#8220;Hey, all those posts seem a bit spammy to me.  Perhaps in the future you could spread them out a bit.&#8221;  That person could have spread it around to the rest of us.  Actually, I think you&#8217;re right and that&#8217;s a better way to go about it.  But, a simple email could have addressed the problem without a, &#8220;I suggest that people are getting so sick of being â€˜urged to donateâ€™ that theyâ€™ll stop donating out of spite,&#8221; negative rant post on your site and the comments that followed.</p>
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		<title>By: Tesh</title>
		<link>http://dragonchasers.com/2009/11/09/response-to-the-mbacd/#comment-127088</link>
		<dc:creator>Tesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*chuckle*
No offense taken.  It&#039;s often all too easy to get uptight about things that really don&#039;t merit it.  Witness the WoW &quot;PetGate&quot; kerfluffle.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*chuckle*<br />
No offense taken.  It&#8217;s often all too easy to get uptight about things that really don&#8217;t merit it.  Witness the WoW &#8220;PetGate&#8221; kerfluffle.  <img src='http://dragonchasers.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://dragonchasers.com/2009/11/09/response-to-the-mbacd/#comment-127083</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tesh - My apologies. I was letting myself get defensive last night, and from there seeing shadows where there were none. I should&#039;ve just walked away from the blog for a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tesh &#8211; My apologies. I was letting myself get defensive last night, and from there seeing shadows where there were none. I should&#8217;ve just walked away from the blog for a while.</p>
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		<title>By: Tesh</title>
		<link>http://dragonchasers.com/2009/11/09/response-to-the-mbacd/#comment-127079</link>
		<dc:creator>Tesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete, I was agreeing with your assessment that the good folk involved have good intentions.  I like to assume that of the people that I&#039;ve come to enjoy reading.  I just didn&#039;t go from there to being grumpy about the spam.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete, I was agreeing with your assessment that the good folk involved have good intentions.  I like to assume that of the people that I&#8217;ve come to enjoy reading.  I just didn&#8217;t go from there to being grumpy about the spam.  <img src='http://dragonchasers.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://dragonchasers.com/2009/11/09/response-to-the-mbacd/#comment-127077</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tesh - Sorry, skipped right over  you.  I really hope I made clear that I assumed Good Intentions too. I devoted a whole paragraph to that fact. Granted it was a short paragraph, but still...

* * * 
@All:
Y&#039;know, I have to admit, Brian Green finally managed to get past my thick skin.  As to why I felt the need to write the post in the first place, it sprang out of a Twitter conversation that morning. I mentioned being spammed by donation requests from blogs that morning, someone agreed with me, and someone else took offense to what I said. Hard to elaborate on my thoughts in 140 characters, so I wrote a blog post. 

I don&#039;t know why people who&#039;ve never commented here, and I suspect have never been here before, come here to fuss at me, because at the end of the day, as Aruda said:

&quot;Truth be told youâ€™ve done exactly what we wanted/needed. You may not give to any of the listed charities and perhaps tomorrow you wont remember this at all, but youâ€™ve spread the word. Thatâ€™s why people have launches.&quot;

If I&#039;m so off the rails, why are you so worried about what I think, Brian? The worst thing that can happen is someone will read my rant, think &quot;Wow, he&#039;s an ass&quot; and then click the link to wind up at Ferrel&#039;s blog where they can then find a place to donate their money.

If *1* person did that, then aren&#039;t you ahead of the game? 

Or do you think I have such a powerful force of personality that I&#039;m somehow going to convince people not to donate? Trust me, I don&#039;t have that kind of influence. Have you *ever* read this blog before? No, I didn&#039;t think so. Nor will you again. And in any event, I never suggested that anyone should *not* donate.

I simply stated that people are already drowning in requests for donations and I don&#039;t think yet another source of these requests is a good thing. I stand by that opinion. It&#039;s my opinion. I&#039;m not a social scientist. I didn&#039;t poll a random demographic. I just know its how I, and a few friends, felt about the blitz.

I do think having essentially the same post on 5 blogs, all cross-linking, is spam (I suggest Google would agree with me...you lot must&#039;ve smelled like a link farm that morning). Note the word &quot;think&quot;. You may feel differently. I don&#039;t see how Ferrel announcing the MMO Blog Alliance Charity Fund drive (with a request to join in), followed over the next few days or even weeks by posts at various blogs, would&#039;ve been the least bit &quot;deceptive&quot; (your word). I think in fact it would&#039;ve been better received that way and possibly more effective. I *know* it would&#039;ve been better received by me. 

I can picture it now: &quot;It&#039;s time for the Annual MMO Blogging Alliance Charity Drive! You can find a list of participating blogs below. Over the next few weeks each of these bloggers will share a few favorite charities and we hope if you have a bit extra to share, you can find a cause that speaks to you personally. If you&#039;d like to participate in the drive this year, please drop me an email and we&#039;ll add you to the list.&quot; etc etc. How is the deceitful? Instead of everyone putting the same 5-10 links in their posts and overwhelming readers with repeated content, they caould all link back to one central page with all the &#039;common&#039; information about the drive and the alliance. 

That wouldn&#039;t be spammy, it&#039;d be more respectful of your reader&#039;s time, and I believe it would ultimately be more effective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tesh &#8211; Sorry, skipped right over  you.  I really hope I made clear that I assumed Good Intentions too. I devoted a whole paragraph to that fact. Granted it was a short paragraph, but still&#8230;</p>
<p>* * *<br />
@All:<br />
Y&#8217;know, I have to admit, Brian Green finally managed to get past my thick skin.  As to why I felt the need to write the post in the first place, it sprang out of a Twitter conversation that morning. I mentioned being spammed by donation requests from blogs that morning, someone agreed with me, and someone else took offense to what I said. Hard to elaborate on my thoughts in 140 characters, so I wrote a blog post. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know why people who&#8217;ve never commented here, and I suspect have never been here before, come here to fuss at me, because at the end of the day, as Aruda said:</p>
<p>&#8220;Truth be told youâ€™ve done exactly what we wanted/needed. You may not give to any of the listed charities and perhaps tomorrow you wont remember this at all, but youâ€™ve spread the word. Thatâ€™s why people have launches.&#8221;</p>
<p>If I&#8217;m so off the rails, why are you so worried about what I think, Brian? The worst thing that can happen is someone will read my rant, think &#8220;Wow, he&#8217;s an ass&#8221; and then click the link to wind up at Ferrel&#8217;s blog where they can then find a place to donate their money.</p>
<p>If *1* person did that, then aren&#8217;t you ahead of the game? </p>
<p>Or do you think I have such a powerful force of personality that I&#8217;m somehow going to convince people not to donate? Trust me, I don&#8217;t have that kind of influence. Have you *ever* read this blog before? No, I didn&#8217;t think so. Nor will you again. And in any event, I never suggested that anyone should *not* donate.</p>
<p>I simply stated that people are already drowning in requests for donations and I don&#8217;t think yet another source of these requests is a good thing. I stand by that opinion. It&#8217;s my opinion. I&#8217;m not a social scientist. I didn&#8217;t poll a random demographic. I just know its how I, and a few friends, felt about the blitz.</p>
<p>I do think having essentially the same post on 5 blogs, all cross-linking, is spam (I suggest Google would agree with me&#8230;you lot must&#8217;ve smelled like a link farm that morning). Note the word &#8220;think&#8221;. You may feel differently. I don&#8217;t see how Ferrel announcing the MMO Blog Alliance Charity Fund drive (with a request to join in), followed over the next few days or even weeks by posts at various blogs, would&#8217;ve been the least bit &#8220;deceptive&#8221; (your word). I think in fact it would&#8217;ve been better received that way and possibly more effective. I *know* it would&#8217;ve been better received by me. </p>
<p>I can picture it now: &#8220;It&#8217;s time for the Annual MMO Blogging Alliance Charity Drive! You can find a list of participating blogs below. Over the next few weeks each of these bloggers will share a few favorite charities and we hope if you have a bit extra to share, you can find a cause that speaks to you personally. If you&#8217;d like to participate in the drive this year, please drop me an email and we&#8217;ll add you to the list.&#8221; etc etc. How is the deceitful? Instead of everyone putting the same 5-10 links in their posts and overwhelming readers with repeated content, they caould all link back to one central page with all the &#8216;common&#8217; information about the drive and the alliance. </p>
<p>That wouldn&#8217;t be spammy, it&#8217;d be more respectful of your reader&#8217;s time, and I believe it would ultimately be more effective.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://dragonchasers.com/2009/11/09/response-to-the-mbacd/#comment-127075</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Brian The &quot;hastily edited&quot; bits that you seem to think were hurtful were, as indicated at the bottom of the original post, just me bitching about people starting the &quot;Holiday Season&quot; so early, and the political incorrectness about using the word &quot;Christmas&quot; rather than &quot;Holidays&quot;. So y&#039;know, don&#039;t start manufacturing drama; there&#039;s enough going around as is.

The only thing &quot;hurtful&quot; here is that some people write a blog and only want to hear when people agree with them. If you&#039;re going to put your thoughts out there, particularly when you&#039;re asking people to open their wallets, you have to accept that some people are going to disagree. I have made ZERO personal attacks in this post or this thread, I have singled no one out and only pointed to Ferrel&#039;s original post for people WHO ARE INTERESTED IN GETTING INVOLVED and in fact have made a point of acknowledging the noble intent behind this program. If someone finds this hurtful, they have to own that; I can&#039;t.

And no, I don&#039;t *personally* have an issue with the Dragon Age posts. I did *personally* have an issue with reading 5 pleas for money in the space of 10 minutes. Key term: &quot;personally&quot;.

If you personally have an issue with Dragon Age posts, I invite you to write a post on your blog complaining about them or pointing out how they annoy you. I&#039;m not going to charge over there and get in your face about voicing your opinion. 

I point out again, I haven&#039;t left a single comment on any of blogs in this &quot;MMO Blogger Alliance.&quot; I was personally annoyed by something that happened and since it was a personal reaction, the &#039;right&#039; thing to do seemed to me, to be to write about it on my own blog. As someone else said recently: &quot;Itâ€™s my damn blog and Iâ€™ll say whatever I please here, whenever I please, and however I damn well please.&quot;  

Or perhaps that sentiment doesn&#039;t apply to both sides of the argument?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Brian The &#8220;hastily edited&#8221; bits that you seem to think were hurtful were, as indicated at the bottom of the original post, just me bitching about people starting the &#8220;Holiday Season&#8221; so early, and the political incorrectness about using the word &#8220;Christmas&#8221; rather than &#8220;Holidays&#8221;. So y&#8217;know, don&#8217;t start manufacturing drama; there&#8217;s enough going around as is.</p>
<p>The only thing &#8220;hurtful&#8221; here is that some people write a blog and only want to hear when people agree with them. If you&#8217;re going to put your thoughts out there, particularly when you&#8217;re asking people to open their wallets, you have to accept that some people are going to disagree. I have made ZERO personal attacks in this post or this thread, I have singled no one out and only pointed to Ferrel&#8217;s original post for people WHO ARE INTERESTED IN GETTING INVOLVED and in fact have made a point of acknowledging the noble intent behind this program. If someone finds this hurtful, they have to own that; I can&#8217;t.</p>
<p>And no, I don&#8217;t *personally* have an issue with the Dragon Age posts. I did *personally* have an issue with reading 5 pleas for money in the space of 10 minutes. Key term: &#8220;personally&#8221;.</p>
<p>If you personally have an issue with Dragon Age posts, I invite you to write a post on your blog complaining about them or pointing out how they annoy you. I&#8217;m not going to charge over there and get in your face about voicing your opinion. </p>
<p>I point out again, I haven&#8217;t left a single comment on any of blogs in this &#8220;MMO Blogger Alliance.&#8221; I was personally annoyed by something that happened and since it was a personal reaction, the &#8216;right&#8217; thing to do seemed to me, to be to write about it on my own blog. As someone else said recently: &#8220;Itâ€™s my damn blog and Iâ€™ll say whatever I please here, whenever I please, and however I damn well please.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Or perhaps that sentiment doesn&#8217;t apply to both sides of the argument?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian 'Psychochild' Green</title>
		<link>http://dragonchasers.com/2009/11/09/response-to-the-mbacd/#comment-127074</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian 'Psychochild' Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete wrote:
&lt;i&gt;Honestly if any one of the blogs I read had had their post up, I wouldâ€™ve maybe ranted about holidays starting too early but wouldnâ€™t have given it another thought beyond â€œOh, thatâ€™s a nice idea, good for them.â€&lt;/i&gt;

So, what you&#039;re saying is we should have been deceptive and let someone like Ferrel post first, then we should have pretended that we were just &quot;reblogging with our own comment&quot;?  The horrible part is that Ferrel decided to get a few others involved beforehand and we posted on the same day?  There&#039;s a reason why marketing has a reputation for being underhanded, because if people like you go off on a tear when people are honest about their intentions.

I guess I&#039;m just confused why this deserved a lengthy (and I guess hurtful yet hastily edited) rant.  As Tesh points out, there&#039;s been a lot more posts about &lt;i&gt;Dragon Age: Origins&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;b&gt;a single-player  game&lt;/b&gt;, on the MMO blogs lately.  Judging from the extended nerdgasm of posts on your site, I guess you don&#039;t have a problem with that.  Personally, I read MMO blogs for MMO commentary, not to hear (yet again) about the already heavily hyped Bioware game.

Not worth a QQing post on my own blog, though.  I wanted to try to help make the world a better place instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete wrote:<br />
<i>Honestly if any one of the blogs I read had had their post up, I wouldâ€™ve maybe ranted about holidays starting too early but wouldnâ€™t have given it another thought beyond â€œOh, thatâ€™s a nice idea, good for them.â€</i></p>
<p>So, what you&#8217;re saying is we should have been deceptive and let someone like Ferrel post first, then we should have pretended that we were just &#8220;reblogging with our own comment&#8221;?  The horrible part is that Ferrel decided to get a few others involved beforehand and we posted on the same day?  There&#8217;s a reason why marketing has a reputation for being underhanded, because if people like you go off on a tear when people are honest about their intentions.</p>
<p>I guess I&#8217;m just confused why this deserved a lengthy (and I guess hurtful yet hastily edited) rant.  As Tesh points out, there&#8217;s been a lot more posts about <i>Dragon Age: Origins</i>, <b>a single-player  game</b>, on the MMO blogs lately.  Judging from the extended nerdgasm of posts on your site, I guess you don&#8217;t have a problem with that.  Personally, I read MMO blogs for MMO commentary, not to hear (yet again) about the already heavily hyped Bioware game.</p>
<p>Not worth a QQing post on my own blog, though.  I wanted to try to help make the world a better place instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Tesh</title>
		<link>http://dragonchasers.com/2009/11/09/response-to-the-mbacd/#comment-127068</link>
		<dc:creator>Tesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I posted some comments when Larisa voiced a similar view on charity drives a week or so ago.  In short, I think that charity is a highly personal, quiet way of life, not a check you send to some Organization once a year to check off your good deed for the holidays.  Everybody needs help sometimes.  Also, charity means far more when it&#039;s given voluntarily (and requires a sacrifice); when the check in the mail is the result of solicitation or guilt trips, I&#039;m hard pressed to really consider it charity.  It still Does Good In The World in a legit organization, but for me, charity is more about the act of giving and what it does to the giver, not championing a Cause.

But that&#039;s just me.  I&#039;m not really bothered by this wave of charity posts since I assume Good Intentions.  It is a wee bit spammy, but then, I tend to also ignore all of the recent posts on Dragon Age, too, since I&#039;ll never play it.  Having been around the internet for a little while, I&#039;ve picked up a few filters.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted some comments when Larisa voiced a similar view on charity drives a week or so ago.  In short, I think that charity is a highly personal, quiet way of life, not a check you send to some Organization once a year to check off your good deed for the holidays.  Everybody needs help sometimes.  Also, charity means far more when it&#8217;s given voluntarily (and requires a sacrifice); when the check in the mail is the result of solicitation or guilt trips, I&#8217;m hard pressed to really consider it charity.  It still Does Good In The World in a legit organization, but for me, charity is more about the act of giving and what it does to the giver, not championing a Cause.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s just me.  I&#8217;m not really bothered by this wave of charity posts since I assume Good Intentions.  It is a wee bit spammy, but then, I tend to also ignore all of the recent posts on Dragon Age, too, since I&#8217;ll never play it.  Having been around the internet for a little while, I&#8217;ve picked up a few filters.  <img src='http://dragonchasers.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bryan (Way up in the comments) - My apologies for the delay in approving your comment. For some reason I didn&#039;t get a notification that your comment was in the queue.

@Brian Green - I generally cover &#039;whining&#039; under the category Pointless Rambling and the tag Rants but will consider sub-categorizing. Thanks.

&quot;many other people a subtle prompting might get them to do the generous thing.&quot;

And that gets back to one of my points, there was nothing even slightly subtle about this. Honestly if any one of the blogs I read had had their post up, I would&#039;ve maybe ranted about holidays starting too early but wouldn&#039;t have given it another thought beyond &quot;Oh, that&#039;s a nice idea, good for them.&quot; It&#039;s this &quot;We&#039;re going to form a MOVEMENT.&quot; that I found off-putting. But I&#039;ve gone on about that ad nauseum at this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bryan (Way up in the comments) &#8211; My apologies for the delay in approving your comment. For some reason I didn&#8217;t get a notification that your comment was in the queue.</p>
<p>@Brian Green &#8211; I generally cover &#8216;whining&#8217; under the category Pointless Rambling and the tag Rants but will consider sub-categorizing. Thanks.</p>
<p>&#8220;many other people a subtle prompting might get them to do the generous thing.&#8221;</p>
<p>And that gets back to one of my points, there was nothing even slightly subtle about this. Honestly if any one of the blogs I read had had their post up, I would&#8217;ve maybe ranted about holidays starting too early but wouldn&#8217;t have given it another thought beyond &#8220;Oh, that&#8217;s a nice idea, good for them.&#8221; It&#8217;s this &#8220;We&#8217;re going to form a MOVEMENT.&#8221; that I found off-putting. But I&#8217;ve gone on about that ad nauseum at this point.</p>
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