Comments on: EGM: Rest in Peace http://dragonchasers.com/2009/01/06/egm-rest-in-peace/ a thoroughly mundane fellow's quest for adventure Tue, 09 Mar 2010 05:03:33 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Tesh http://dragonchasers.com/2009/01/06/egm-rest-in-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-116102 Tesh Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:37:27 +0000 http://dragonchasers.com/?p=1533#comment-116102 Grid, as far as I'm concerned, the NYT or any other "venerable" newspaper is about as worthless as blogs when it comes to real news or reporting important facts. They have political biases and agendas just like any other writer. The latest election cycle reinforced that. Any pretense of journalistic integrity was abandoned years ago. I do miss the information-dense CGW and the like. I'll admit, I only read them at the library, since I'm cheap, but they were a gold mine. Modern gaming mags are overcommercialized and too often bereft of anything useful. Grid, as far as I’m concerned, the NYT or any other “venerable” newspaper is about as worthless as blogs when it comes to real news or reporting important facts. They have political biases and agendas just like any other writer. The latest election cycle reinforced that. Any pretense of journalistic integrity was abandoned years ago.

I do miss the information-dense CGW and the like. I’ll admit, I only read them at the library, since I’m cheap, but they were a gold mine. Modern gaming mags are overcommercialized and too often bereft of anything useful.

]]> By: DM Osbon http://dragonchasers.com/2009/01/06/egm-rest-in-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-116095 DM Osbon Thu, 08 Jan 2009 13:50:38 +0000 http://dragonchasers.com/?p=1533#comment-116095 Hmm I tried for EDGE magazine as a freelance writer in December but with the likes of EGM letting good writers go I can see a few of them being headhunted for EDGE. Ah well back to the blog where all is safe & warm... Hmm I tried for EDGE magazine as a freelance writer in December but with the likes of EGM letting good writers go I can see a few of them being headhunted for EDGE.

Ah well back to the blog where all is safe & warm…

]]> By: Shifting sands: EGM and Threshold MUD « /random http://dragonchasers.com/2009/01/06/egm-rest-in-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-116041 Shifting sands: EGM and Threshold MUD « /random Wed, 07 Jan 2009 20:58:01 +0000 http://dragonchasers.com/?p=1533#comment-116041 [...] by the sheer magnititude of available game-playing hours. I wasn’t a subscriber to EGM (like Pete over at Dragonchasers, EGM began publishing when I was already in my 20’s, and already a PC [...] [...] by the sheer magnititude of available game-playing hours. I wasn’t a subscriber to EGM (like Pete over at Dragonchasers, EGM began publishing when I was already in my 20’s, and already a PC [...]

]]> By: Pete http://dragonchasers.com/2009/01/06/egm-rest-in-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-116019 Pete Wed, 07 Jan 2009 15:48:11 +0000 http://dragonchasers.com/?p=1533#comment-116019 Good points Grid, when it comes to "real" news. Bloggers cover stuff that interests them, which generally means stuff that's "exciting" whereas paid journalists cover things that might not be "exciting" but that we readers really need to know. And blogging is so 'immediate' that you rarely get the in-depth coverage that a paid journalist being supported by a newspaper company can provide. @JayeDub Have you checked out EGM recently? Kind of a moot point now, but it's been getting better recently. Though I also admit that my sub was a freebie from some other mag folding. :) Good points Grid, when it comes to “real” news. Bloggers cover stuff that interests them, which generally means stuff that’s “exciting” whereas paid journalists cover things that might not be “exciting” but that we readers really need to know.

And blogging is so ‘immediate’ that you rarely get the in-depth coverage that a paid journalist being supported by a newspaper company can provide.

@JayeDub Have you checked out EGM recently? Kind of a moot point now, but it’s been getting better recently. Though I also admit that my sub was a freebie from some other mag folding. :)

]]> By: xXJayeDuBXx http://dragonchasers.com/2009/01/06/egm-rest-in-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-115991 xXJayeDuBXx Wed, 07 Jan 2009 04:27:09 +0000 http://dragonchasers.com/?p=1533#comment-115991 I prefer to print media over internet any day, but EGM was not one of those that I liked. But regardless it is unfortunate that people are loosing jobs. I prefer to print media over internet any day, but EGM was not one of those that I liked. But regardless it is unfortunate that people are loosing jobs.

]]> By: Grid http://dragonchasers.com/2009/01/06/egm-rest-in-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-115989 Grid Wed, 07 Jan 2009 03:17:15 +0000 http://dragonchasers.com/?p=1533#comment-115989 Newspapers are another media in big trouble. I hear some young people saying they get their news off the blogs on the net but a blog is a persons opinion, not a news source per say. That blog writer sure as hell is not covering the local school board and/or doing in depth behind the scenes investigation of goverment. Plus, laptop or not, I love having the morning paper spread out on the kitchen table while I am eating breakfast and drinking my coffee. If newspapers die as well, the national awarness of issues large and small will drop lower than it already is. Newspapers are another media in big trouble. I hear some young people saying they get their news off the blogs on the net but a blog is a persons opinion, not a news source per say. That blog writer sure as hell is not covering the local school board and/or doing in depth behind the scenes investigation of goverment. Plus, laptop or not, I love having the morning paper spread out on the kitchen table while I am eating breakfast and drinking my coffee.
If newspapers die as well, the national awarness of issues large and small will drop lower than it already is.

]]> By: Pete http://dragonchasers.com/2009/01/06/egm-rest-in-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-115988 Pete Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:44:56 +0000 http://dragonchasers.com/?p=1533#comment-115988 Plus as the story develops, it sounds like the 1Up/EGM staff is getting whacked, and it sucks to see people losing their jobs (granted, this is a separate issue from EGM folding). So far, the following people have been laid off (according to Joystiq): Adrian Frieg Amy Mishra Amy Moran Andrea Garcia Andrew Fitch Andrew "Skip" Pfister Anthony Gallegos Cesar Quintero Christina Rosa CoyLou Steel Derek Chinn Doug Parsons Eric Ellis Giancarlo Varanini Greg Ford James "Milkman" Mielke Jason Bertrand Jason Wilson Jervilyn Jaramillo Justin Frechette Leslie Gelfand Marci Yamaguchi Matt Chandronait May Tong Meredith Stowe Michael Donahoe Monique Convertito Ndubuisi Madu Nick Suttner Norris Boothe Philip Kollar Rey Serrano Robert Bowen Rosemary Pinkham Ryan O'Donnell Ryan Scott Shane Bettenhausen Simon Cox Tammy Ross Tipler Ubbelohde Plus as the story develops, it sounds like the 1Up/EGM staff is getting whacked, and it sucks to see people losing their jobs (granted, this is a separate issue from EGM folding). So far, the following people have been laid off (according to Joystiq):

Adrian Frieg
Amy Mishra
Amy Moran
Andrea Garcia
Andrew Fitch
Andrew “Skip” Pfister
Anthony Gallegos
Cesar Quintero
Christina Rosa
CoyLou Steel
Derek Chinn
Doug Parsons
Eric Ellis
Giancarlo Varanini
Greg Ford
James “Milkman” Mielke
Jason Bertrand
Jason Wilson
Jervilyn Jaramillo
Justin Frechette
Leslie Gelfand
Marci Yamaguchi
Matt Chandronait
May Tong
Meredith Stowe
Michael Donahoe
Monique Convertito
Ndubuisi Madu
Nick Suttner
Norris Boothe
Philip Kollar
Rey Serrano
Robert Bowen
Rosemary Pinkham
Ryan O’Donnell
Ryan Scott
Shane Bettenhausen
Simon Cox
Tammy Ross
Tipler Ubbelohde

]]> By: Pete http://dragonchasers.com/2009/01/06/egm-rest-in-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-115987 Pete Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:42:50 +0000 http://dragonchasers.com/?p=1533#comment-115987 Kids these days. Hmph! :) I'd agree with you on news, and somewhat on reviews, but content such as interviews with game developers or articles on theory-crafting have a much longer shelf-life and often read better in a nice printed format (IMO). For instance several times I've read an interesting article in Wired magazine then wanted to share it with someone so found the same article online, and the presentation just wasn't as good online, plus an article that seemed "in-depth" in print just felt terribly long on-line. In my case, at least, I think my brain works slightly differently when I'm reading print. Kids these days. Hmph! :)

I’d agree with you on news, and somewhat on reviews, but content such as interviews with game developers or articles on theory-crafting have a much longer shelf-life and often read better in a nice printed format (IMO). For instance several times I’ve read an interesting article in Wired magazine then wanted to share it with someone so found the same article online, and the presentation just wasn’t as good online, plus an article that seemed “in-depth” in print just felt terribly long on-line.

In my case, at least, I think my brain works slightly differently when I’m reading print.

]]> By: Lars http://dragonchasers.com/2009/01/06/egm-rest-in-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-115986 Lars Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:29:01 +0000 http://dragonchasers.com/?p=1533#comment-115986 Those magazines are worthless nowadays since the information is obsolete by the time it reaches print. So I'm not too sad to see them go. Those magazines are worthless nowadays since the information is obsolete by the time it reaches print. So I’m not too sad to see them go.

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