Comments on: Warhammer Chat Paradox

By: Gwyn

Gwyn — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 22:17:21 +0000

I am very glad to have this tip, I look forward to turning that off! For me personally, that’s been spammy in its own right and more annoying than “local flavor”.

By: xXJayeDubXx

xXJayeDubXx — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 21:32:31 +0000

The problem I have is that there is so much NPC spam that it will push small one sentence tells out of the screen. The reason I seem to notice the gold spammers is because they use multi line tells, so it’s easier to spot. But I had not thought of filtering out the Monster say stuff, great idea!!

My main issue with the chat window is that it lags behind sometimes. A small complaint that doesn’t hinder the fun I am having in the least.

By: Ysharros

Ysharros — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 21:23:59 +0000

Oddly enough I don’t think you miss much by filtering Monster say and emote. 90% of that seems to be “She’s a witch! Warts, I tell ya!” repeated 18 times by all 18 of the wandering peasants, all at the same time (repeating, not wandering, though that is synchronised too).

I certainly can’t say I’ve missed it, and I catch a lot more on my main chat tab now as a result.

Definitely worth trying, esp if you throw it into a tab of its own, so that you can check it now and then and see if you really DID miss something of substance.

By: Pidge

Pidge — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:13:39 +0000

Thanks for the tip, Pete! I might give it a try sometime. Right now, I’m still exploring the world and don’t want to miss what some of the mobs are doing and saying — just in case there are any surprises. That’s well worth living with the chatty NPCs for the time being.

And, yes, I got the specific point you’re making about negative blog posts. Meh, there will always be haters. If they can’t make a legitimate point, I’ll stop reading them the same as I would the never-a-bad-word fanboys.

By: Pete

Pete — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 18:52:20 +0000

BTW Pidge, all that NPC stuff can be filtered, it’s tagged Monster Say and Monster Emote. I just route that junk into a separate tab that I rarely look at (I just figure some day I might want/need to see what an NPC is saying).

By: Pete

Pete — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 18:44:08 +0000

I’m not suggesting that gold seller spam isn’t an issue; I agree it is. Not just their spam, but their existence. Like any other kind of spammer, it’ll be an on-going battle to minimize the damage they do.

And if someone says “All this gold seller spam is making me miss legit tells” then I’d totally understand that.

I’m more referring to people who were complaining loudly and repetitively that they “never saw tells” *before* the gold sellers arrived, who now complain loudly and repetitively that gold seller tells are ruining the game. If the chat interface is so bad that they claim to never see *any* tells, then how can the gold seller tells be such a problem for them?

Repetitively being the key word, anyway.

There are a few bloggers out there who seem to be playing WAR for no other reason than to find things to bitch about in blog posts.

I apologize if I came across as saying the gold seller spam wasn’t a legit problem: I agree it is one. But I’m also willing to give Mythic some time to work the problem, which they’ve already started doing.

By: JoBildo

JoBildo — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 18:35:08 +0000

There’s a lengthy thread at Vault Network, with Mark asking for input from all of us about what we want in our chat system, as they’re adding/tweaking it as one of their next big tasks, FYI.

By: Pidge

Pidge — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 18:27:58 +0000

>> If the chat system is so bad that you donâ€™t notice tells, then how can the gold seller spam be so annoying!!?

It’s not odd at all.

Gold sellers’ usually spam several lines of junk at a time, which is not only annoying by itself, but also does a nice job of scrolling useful stuff off the screen. The more you get, the more annoying.

Tells you actually should be catching are therefore easier to miss.

Other things, like the NPC chatter, does the same thing. I like talkative NPCs as much as the next guy, but go into the marketplace in Altdorf and you’ll get spammed by the NPCs non-stop.

None of this is gamebreaking for me, but I see lots of room for improvement and fine-tuning. Apparently, so does Mythic.

I get you are trying to make a Point, but don’t confuse legitimate complaints aimed at trying to point out ways to improve the game with general whining.